Jan, 2016 dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence that proves the book of mormon. Response to rodney meldrums incredible new dna evidence. I used to love that thing, it gave answers to a bunch of shit that didnt make sense about the book of mormon taking place in. Book of mormon geography, lands, map, dna true evidence.
Well documented facts, and he covered so many different aspects of evidence to back up his video presentation, aside from the compelling dna evidence, he used weather, animal migration, mapping, rivers, water bodies, descriptions from the book of mormon. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence general. The basic premise of the research engaged in by the author, rod meldrum, was that there was sufficient evidence in the book of mormon and from the prophet jos smith jr. Identifying ancient dna related to book of mormon people summary. More nailpounding into the mormon churchs lamanite dna. Several authors have published works that suggest that current studies of genetic anthropology using dna evidence do not provide support for the book of mormon. While two different lds scientists have said that dna research discounts the book of mormon as an ancient, historical. Although autosomal dna testing has been available for a number of years, its use to. Dna evidence disproves key mormon doctrine youtube.
It presents some novel techniquesincluding familial testing and analyzing domestic animal hairthat hav. The book of mormon is clear that it was a literal curse on their skin. Dna evidence and the book of mormon conclusive proof that. Jan 19, 2016 rod is a friend of mine and a member of my hp group, but he has oversimplified this dna matter, aside from falsely stating 1 that the maya are the center of interest of those who consider the book of mormon to be a mesoamerican codex, and 2 that they focus on the maya because they think that joseph smith did so as well. Members of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints need to realize that. Dna evidence for book of mormon geography, the original dvd introducing the heartland geography model, has been discontinued following more than 60,000 copies being distributed over the past 7 years. Boyd tuttle phoenicians before columbus expedition mission accomplished. May 11, 2009 a recently published book claims that dna evidence proves the book of mormon, one of the books of scripture used by the mormon church, incorrect.
Dna evidence does not support the testimony of the lds church mormon doctrine. Cherokeephoenician dna connection book of mormon evidence. Book of mormon dna mormonism, the mormon church, beliefs. Dec 06, 2017 in criminal investigation, dna evidence can be a gamechanger. In forensic dna testing there is a onetoone correlation of dna resultsthe individuals dna either matches or does not match the evidence. Even if geneticists had a database of the dna that now exists among all modern american indian groups.
Some lds scientists argue that the book of mormon does not present a. Many members of the latter day saint movement claim historical authenticity of the book of mormon. An excellent documentary by rod meldrum for new scientific support for the truthfulness of the book of mormon studying the correlation and verification through dna, prophetic, scriptural, historical, climatological, archaeological, social, and cultural evidence. There is evidence that xlineage dna has been isolated from ancient. In order to prove what is referred to as the heartland model of book of mormon geography, the audience is first instructed on how to determine truth, and even how to interpret specific words contained in the scriptures. Some argue dna disproves the historicity of the book of mormon.
The book of mormon geography lands and map with dna evidence. The criticism of the mormon church is the following. This view finds no acceptance outside of mormonism. The book of mormon claims that the native american peoples are descended from the house of israel, but the dna evidence, according to this book, points to an asiatic origin for the american continents native people. Wayne may presents book of mormon evidence in north american geography, archaeology and historical records. Reviews of dna evidence for book of mormon geography fairmormon. If the book of mormon were a historical record, one would expect that, like the lemba, there would be dna evidence to show that some remaining group of amerindians could trace their dna. It is the most widely distributed dvd in the history of the church on the subject of book of mormon geography. Most, but not all, mormons hold the book s connection to ancient american history as an article of their faith. Jun 17, 2017 the site at nahom even dates back to lehis time period. All opinions, speakers and presenters represent and express their own individual opinions, and not necessarily the opinions of firm foundation, book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information or opinions represent the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. Butler, a forensic dna scientist, the majority of the.
Are israelites the principal ancestors of native americans. In 2003, when meldrum first became aware of the book of mormon dna problem. But dna is just one piece of the puzzle, rarely giving a clear he did it answer. The book of mormon and the origin of native americans from a. The book of mormon makes several scientific claims that can be tested. Resolving a 150yearold paternity case in mormon history using. How forensic dna evidence can lead to wrongful convictions. Dna evidence for book of mormon geography documentarytube. The book of mormon tells the story of a family from ancient jerusalem that crossed the ocean and colonized somewhere in the western hemisphere where they started an entire civilization. The evidence assembled to date suggests that the majority of native americans carry largely asian dna. Dna evidence proves book of mormon claims about ancient. Dna evidence for book of mormon geography by rod meldrum. New scientific support for the truthfulness of the book of mormon. Dna analysis has concluded that native american indians do not originate from the middle east or from israelites but rather from asia.
This book provides the most detailed information written todate on dna databases, lowlevel dna, validation, and numerous other topics including a new chapter on legal aspects of dna testing to prepare scientists for expert witness testimony. Answers to apologetic claims about dna and the book of mormon. Book of mormon evidence streaming faithfully exploring. Forensic dna evidence interpretation crc press book. Sep 08, 2016 response to the essay book of mormon and dna studies in the rest of this article, we will comment on specific statements in the essay book of mormon and dna studies pertaining to what it says about the science of dna research as it applies to the issues raised by the book of mormon. One of most basic tenets of the lds faith maintains that the book of mormon is a literal history of the ancestors of the present day american indian peoples.
Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon by rich deem introduction. Last updated 05302011, this documents some of the interaction between book of mormon believers and skeptics relating to scientific dna research on lamanites and nephites who lds faithful believe descended from middle easterners centuries ago. Correlation and verification through dna, prophetic, scriptural, historical, climatological, archaeological, social, and cultural evidence. Dna lamanites book of mormon genetics genealogy genesis. Archaeological and historical evidence dna and the book of. Specific worksdna evidence for book of mormon geography. The dna and scriptural narrative is nothing without the cultural evidence displayed by native american culture.
Dna controversy is an issue that most critics believe completely undermines mormon beliefs in the truthfulness of the book. We now know from dna studies that the ancestors of these native peoples were essentially all derived from asia. However, this attack ignores several key points, among which is the fact that the book of mormon states that lehi and his. The lds church released an essay on their website titled book of mormon and dna studies.
Read rediscovering the book of mormon remnant through dna this short version article is here and the long version may be downloaded here, titled rediscovering the book of mormon remnant through dna by rod meldrum effectively and powerfully addresses, and provides supporting evidence about the dna questions you may have. Dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence youtube. Autosomal snps, which are routinely typed in forensic genetics for. Officially, the mormon church says that nothing in the mormon scriptures is incompatible with dna evidence, and that the genetic studies are being twisted to attack the church. The church of jesus christ of latter day saints teaches that all the native american tribes are descended from a jewish family who came to these uninhabited continents in the sixth century before christ. Archaeological evidence of the book of mormon latterday. Ces letter links to a poorly written wikipedia article as the basis of their sweeping claim.
In fact, several mormon organizations have been founded in order to prove. Genetic attacks on the book of mormon focus on the fact that amerindian dna seems closest to asian dna, and not dna from the middle east or jewish dna. Produced by fair, a nonprofit organization that sponsors conferences and websites in defence of the church, this video dispells what for some is a troubling criticism. The church of jesus christ of latterday saints released an essay on their website titled book of mormon and dna studies. There are cultural and dna findings that match the book of mormon and old testament. In summary, dna evidence and the book of mormon is long overdue. Does dna evidence prove the book of mormon to be false.
Dna experts, and christians attack the bible as well as the book of mormon. New discoveries in dna research currently allow scientists to test this historical claim. The churchs response to recent summaries of the scientific evidence in this regard, most notably provided by tom murphy in various published papers, has been to indicate that all is well on its official website, followed by a reference to articles from the journal of book of mormon studies respecting dna and the book of mormon. Five compelling archeological evidences for the book of mormon. To date there are no dna studies that link any native american group with west eurasia. Dna claims rebutted on book of mormon deseret news. Thomas murphy, anthropologist, mormon scholar, and dna researcher, acknowledges the problem that the dna evidence presents for the historical accuracy of the book of mormon. Dna samples taken from modern american indians show no connection to the dna of the peoples of the middle east. Southerton was a member of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints lds church, having converted to the church at age 10. A closer examination demonstrates that dna evidence does not discredit. This is some heavy duty gaslighting and throwing the bom under the bus. This video is an eyeopening look for mormons to see the deception laid before them by clearly proving that there is no evidence to support the book of mormon and, in fact, provides contrary evidence. If the book of mormon is false, joseph smith was not a prophet.
One reason it is difficult to use dna evidence to draw definite conclusions about book of mormon peoples is that nothing is known about the dna that lehi, sariah, ishmael, and others brought to the americas. Feb 02, 2012 the book of mormon teaches that these israelites are the principal ancestors of modernday native americans. Joseph smith, prophet and translator of the book of mormon, stated. The book uses genetic evidence to examine the historical accuracy of the book of mormon and related claims about the lamanite people. Three great resources to debunk the dna vs book of mormon. Precisely the same thing can be said about the earths shape as the church says about the dna issue respecting the book of mormon. The overall trend in the date over the past 175 years fits the expectations for the book of mormon as history rather than hoax. Addressing questions surrounding the book of mormon and dna. One last topic on the subject of archaeological evidence for the book of mormon that i want to talk about is horses. Two of the most prevalent claims for the book of mormon are, there is much archaeological proof to the book of mormon, and the american indians are descendants of israelites who came to america as described in the book of mormon. Joseph smith claimed that the book of mormon is the. Book of mormon dna religionwiki fandom powered by wikia. As seen by science, the book of mormon is stronger today than it was in 1830, 1844, 1950, or even 2000, so i expect it will continue to become stronger in the future. This video is a response to the original video, dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence found here.
The book of mormon makes a handful of references to horses existing on the american continents in these ancient times. Butler appears to be confusing forensic applications of dna technology with. The book of mormon presents the evidence from dna researchers. The dna evidence suggests that the native americans origins were not from the middle east at all, as the mormon church has claimed for years, and instead that they were from asia. A case study approach covers the most common dna analysis methods used in criminal trials today, including str techniques, mitochondrial dna, and ystrs. The book of mormon tells the story of a family from ancient jerusalem that crossed the ocean and colonized somewhere in the western hemisphere where they started an. Come join in this highly educational and faith building regional conference. Another testament of jesus christ, is true, not false. Mormon church says it was an error in their come follow me manual that there was a curse of dark skin. The dvd is based upon a popular presentation given in a number of fireside.
That is, the best evidence indicates today that the earth is round, but it is still possible that more persuasive evidence that it is flat will someday be produced. This page supports my main mormon answers page on dna evidence and the book of mormon. Hi, i just finished watching a dvd titled dna evidence for book of mormon geography. Arizona regional conference, book of mormon evidence series. The book of mormon geography and map with dna evidence and the location of lands and cities such as zarahemla, cumorah, the narrow neck, mexico, caribbean sea, american indians, and true evidence are all here. Did anyone else ever watch the presentation dna evidence for the book of mormon that some guy put out in response to the dna evidence against the book of mormon.
But even without the discovery of such evidence or of the possibly relevant dna haplotypes, a proper understanding of what the book of mormon actually says and what the scientific data actually say rapidly leads one to the conclusion that the dna based attacks on the book of mormon are without merit. Mormonism disproved by new dna evidence oxford bible church. In recent years, many have wondered what dna studies might contribute to understanding book of mormon origins. Dna evidence of the book of mormon in north america, linking. Written by leaders in the fields of biology and statistics, including a contribution from peter gill, the father of dna analysis, the book emphasizes the interpretation of test results and provides the necessary formulae in an easily accessible manner. Response to rodney meldrums incredible new dna evidence for the book of mormon a youtube clip entitled dna vs book of mormon incredible new evidence is causing a stir among mormons as it has appeared on websites such as. Dna evidence for book of mormon geography miscellaneous. For 175 years the leaders and general membership of the mormon church have believed american indians and polynesians are descended from israelites based on their understanding of the book of mormon. Well documented facts, and he covered so many different aspects of evidence to back up his video presentation, aside from the compelling dna evidence, he used weather, animal migration, mapping, rivers, water bodies, descriptions from the book of mormon and matched them to the local geography. Does dna evidence prove the book of mormon is false. Joseph smith and the origins of mormon polygamy, john whitmer books 2010, pp. As far as antimormon claims are concerned, the antimormon critics had been jumping to conclusions based on lowresolution dna tests that are used for population studies. Now in its second edition, forensic dna evidence interpretation is the most comprehensive resource for dna casework available today. Stephen smoot at book of mormon central walks viewers through the discovery of nahom and what it means for book of mormon evidence.
In early 2008 rodney meldrum published a dvd titled dna evidence for book of mormon geography. The chief claim, and the premise of the entire book, is that hebrews carried the message of the coming messiah on a voyage across the atlantic. According to the book of mormon, by 385 ad the darkskinned lamanites had wiped out other hebrews. Dna evidence and molecular genetics disprove the book of mormon. According to a consortium of forensic experts who released a report earlier this year, there are limits to what dna can tell us about a crime. Dna evidence conflicts with book of mormon lds facts. Ces letter links to a poorly written wikipedia article as the basis of their sweeping. These book of mormon experts and performers will present the latest research and findings showing profound new evidences that powerfully support the book of mormon. The book of mormon, the founding document of the latter day saint movement and one of the. Evidence continues to mount that its history occurred in the heartland of north america. Lamanites everywhere but nary a drop of jewish dna recovery. Tv series that depicts forensic scientists solving complicated questions about.
The conclusion states, much as critics and defenders of the book of mormon would like to use dna studies to support their views, the evidence is. Joseph smith said in the introduction to the book i told the brethren that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone to our religion yet, the evidence shows the book of mormon is not revelation from god, but a fictitious story written by joseph smith. As to why this is the most concise dna evidence for the book of mormon is two fold. The controversy stems from dna studies of native american peoples. Critics argue that since the dna of native americans shares asian rather than. The theory that the book of mormon is an ancient american history is not accepted as scientifically verifiable by the mainstream. Non mormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence. For a little background, nahom is mentioned only once in the book of mormon, in 1 nephi 16. Over half of the content is new compared to previous editions. The book of mormon and the new world dna deseret book. Nonmormon archaeologists speak on book of mormon evidence. Response to the essay book of mormon and dna studies in the rest of this article, we will comment on specific statements in the essay book of mormon and dna studies pertaining to what it says about the science of dna research as it applies to the issues raised by the book of mormon. The book of mormon and lds prophets identify todays native americans as literal descendants of hebrews who traveled from jerusalem in 600 b.
Some argue dna disproves the historicity of the book of mormon while. David read the surprising new dna evidence supports the book of mormon. There is dna evidence that the native americans did not have the origins that the book of mormon purports that they do. The dvd dna evidence for book of mormon geography and its associated seminar series make a number of disturbing claims. Butler is an internationally renowned researcher on the use of forensic dna. Jun 22, 2016 all opinions, speakers and presenters represent and express their own individual opinions, and not necessarily the opinions of firm foundation, book of mormon evidence, or its employees, and no information or opinions represent the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. This dvd delivers on its promise, and provided empirical evidence to those who will listen. Reviews of dna evidence for book of mormon geography. The conclusion states, much as critics and defenders of the book of mormon would like to use dna studies to support their views, the evidence is simply inconclusive. Now the same dna evidence used in courts of law can credibly speak to the validity of the book of mormon, which serves as the foundation of the mormon religion. Book of mormon evidence in american archaeology wayne may. This must mean that amerindians are not descended from book of mormon peoples, and the book of mormon is false. When highresolution tests the type used by police forensics scientists to identify individuals, not large population groups were done, genetic markers for hebrew dna showed up.
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